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ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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0009870 | ardour | bugs | public | 2024-12-15 17:07 | 2024-12-15 17:56 |
Reporter | HuBandiT | Assigned To | |||
Priority | normal | Severity | block | Reproducibility | always |
Status | new | Resolution | open | ||
Platform | Microsoft | OS | Windows | OS Version | 10 |
Product Version | 8.10 | ||||
Summary | 0009870: Ardour records digital silence, even though the 5 second history waveforms on the recording window do show signal being present | ||||
Description | I am unable to record audio with Ardour: it records digital silence in place of the audio signal that is confirmed to be coming in on the 5 second history waveforms on the recording window. Please see attached screenshots. ---8<------8<--- I started experiencing this beginning with the fix for 0009798 I think, and it still is happening with Ardour 8.10. Win10. This is both happening with my 18-channel Midas MR18 over ASIO, as well as my notebook internal microphone over MME. In both cases the history waveforms show incoming signal as normal, but digital silence gets recorded instead. As a result I am unable to record with (these versions of) Ardour. Thank you in advance. | ||||
Steps To Reproduce | Steps to reproduce: - Launch Ardour creating a new recording session - in the recorder window -- arm tracks for recording -- visually confirm that signal is coming in on channels -- record -- stop recording -- check recorded audio visually and by playing back Expected result. - audio appears in the editor window as waveforms, and can be heard when playing back and meters show levels properly Actual result: - in the editor window, zooming into tracks shows digital silence (flat line) - region properties window shows peak amplitude at -inf dBFS - playing back the recording causes no signal to appear on level meters (everything stays at -inf) | ||||
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(Attaching my session file.) 2024.12.15. Ardour records digital silence.ardour (52,937 bytes)
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The inputs of the tracks are not connected to anything. With default preferences, Ardour auto-connects inputs to newly created tracks, other than that you'll have to manually connect them. |
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see also https://prokoudine.github.io/ardour-tutorial/en/recording/recording-audio/ |
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Thank you, and my apologies: indeed, I checked my preferences, and I had "connect track inputs" on "manually" instead of "automatically to physical inputs". :( In that case, I would like to suggest a warning dialog for when clicking on the rec button with any record-armed tracks not connected to an input. (Happy to open a new issue for that if you desire.) |
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... or maybe the warning should appear when clicking the record arm on the track? maybe don't allow arming the track without an input selected? or display a dialog that includes a selection list for the input? basically I feel that even though this probably a silly/noob mistake, it still nevertheless has disastrous enough results for the user so that it is worth for the software to proactively check for. |
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(a live gig can be busy and stressed, and one does not always have full time and attention to setting up the recording (which is a secondary thing in that situation), so it would be nice to have one less place where one can accidentally make a mistake) |
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Well, the meters on each track show a signal, and you can use Window > Meterbridge to get an overview of track signal levels. (the reocder pages shows raw soundcard inputs) It is also not uncommon to have some track inputs unconnected (e.g. reference tracks, or imported audio). Then again it i a good idea to to show a warning if a track that is actively recording has no input connected. |
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