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0009496ardourbugspublic2023-10-21 10:262023-10-22 20:06
Reporterbenald Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeveritycrashReproducibilitysometimes
Status newResolutionopen 
PlatformMicrosoftOSWindowsOS Version11
Product Version8.1 
Summary0009496: Saving 'Snapshot and keep working on current version' regularly crashes.
DescriptionI noticed this after I put in several patch changes in my tracks. I am using the new arpeggiator plugins and a Cardinal FX bus. The project can be saved reliably using the straight 'Save' option.
I was going to upload my project but is now too large, even compressed into a zip file. The size of the project is, I think, down to the output of one track with an arpeggiator being fed into a bus. The bus also has an arpeggiator in it. This might be a terrible idea as far as the software goes but I like the sound it produces - and so is probably a good contender for the cause of the crashing.
I had some idea that the crashes were to do with an inconsistency with how the software adds patch changes - which I flagged earlier.
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x42

2023-10-21 14:56

administrator   ~0028233

Is there anything in %localappdata%\Ardour8\CrashLog\ ?

Does this only happen when there are any MIDI tracks in the session?

benald

2023-10-21 15:00

reporter   ~0028234

All tracks are midi apart from the fx bus

x42

2023-10-21 15:46

administrator   ~0028235

I just checked and with Ardour 8.1 on Windows 7 and with a simple session a MIDI track, general MIDI synth and a MIDI region it work fine.

To track things down..

Does it also happen in a new session?
Does it happen if there are only audio tracks?
Does it happen in every session that has at least 1 MIDI track?

It could also be caused to [synth] plugins?!

Do you have a session where snapshot & keep working crashes reliably? Can you share/upload that session?

benald

2023-10-21 19:34

reporter   ~0028237

I did have a lot of patch changes in single tracks and I was suspicious that that was causing a problem. I have deleted all of the patch changes and put the different instruments in different tracks instead. I think that this has fixed the problem for me. I am happy to send a copy of the project with the problem. It is about 15 mbytes compressed so it won't upload here.

benald

2023-10-22 11:08

reporter   ~0028240

I think I have got around this issue (as described in my last reply) but going through the replies I saw the request for a crash log. I'm sorry I haven't sent this before. Here are all of my crashlogs for this project. Thanks for your help.
CrashLog.zip (109,214 bytes)

benald

2023-10-22 14:46

reporter   ~0028241

I've started to get the snapshot crashes again. This is the latest crash report.
Ardour-8.1.0-crash-1697985563.txt (11,575 bytes)    
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Error occurred on Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 15:43:27.

Ardour.exe caused a Breakpoint at location 00007FF9A66FCBB2 in module KERNELBASE.dll.

AddrPC           Params
00007FF9A66FCBB2 0000000000000000 000000006FA633A0 0000000000000004  KERNELBASE.dll!DebugBreak
000000006FF9E2EA 0000000000000000 000000006FF6C330 0000000000000004  libglib-2.0-0.dll!g_abort  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../glib/gutils.c @ 3104]
000000006FF6B824 000032B41FBF89F1 0000000000000056 000000000156E568  libglib-2.0-0.dll!_g_log_abort  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../glib/gmessages.c @ 556]
000000006FF6C3D4 0000000000000002 0000000000000000 0000000000000009  libglib-2.0-0.dll!g_log_default_handler  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../glib/gmessages.c @ 3123]
000000006FF6C6F1 000000003235E800 000000006D897A6D 0000000000000000  libglib-2.0-0.dll!g_logv  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../glib/gmessages.c @ 1350]
000000006FF6C898 00000000042F3801 00000000303F6F80 000000003235E800  libglib-2.0-0.dll!g_log  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../glib/gmessages.c @ 1415]
000000006FE89752 0000000000020002 000000006FC34FA0 00000000042F3870  libglibmm-2.4-1.dll!Glib::exception_handlers_invoke
000000006FE90A50 0000000000000001 000000000419FB20 000000000156E890  libglibmm-2.4-1.dll!Glib::SignalProxyNormal::slot0_void_callback
000000006FC36913 0000000000000000 000000000156EA90 000000000156E890  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!g_closure_invoke  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gclosure.c @ 810]
000000006FC48DA5 0000000004DF63B0 0000000000000000 000000000419FB20  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!signal_emit_unlocked_R  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gsignal.c @ 3812]
000000006FC52EBD 000000000419FB20 000000006FC3AF02 0000000000000000  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!g_signal_emit_valist  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gsignal.c @ 3498]
000000006FC53708 000000006F89DC70 000000006F89DC9D 0000000000000000  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!g_signal_emit  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gsignal.c @ 3554]
000000006F79DF49 000000000F6BE620 0000000004C55540 0000000000000000  libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll!gtk_action_activate
000000006FC36913 0000000000000000 000000006FC46440 0000000000000000  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!g_closure_invoke  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gclosure.c @ 810]
000000006FC494F3 000000000423F020 0000000000000000 000000000F6BEE30  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!signal_emit_unlocked_R  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gsignal.c @ 3672]
000000006FC52EBD 000000000F6BEE30 000000000F6BEE30 0000000000000000  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!g_signal_emit_valist  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gsignal.c @ 3498]
000000006FC53708 000000000F5E05C0 00007FF9A63AE8EB 0000000000000000  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!g_signal_emit  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gsignal.c @ 3554]
000000006F9E8F90 000000000F6BEE30 000000006F8A02A4 00000000FFFFFEFF  libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll!gtk_widget_activate
000000006F8A3972 23E0812770761630 00000000706BB171 0000000000000001  libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll!gtk_menu_shell_activate_item
000000006F8A3CD9 000000000156F444 00000000706FDBCD 000000000024064C  libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll!gtk_menu_shell_button_release
000000006F896213 0000000000000202 00007FF9A8A8A6A2 00000000016A28F8  libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll!gtk_menu_button_release
000000006F88CCF7 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000080004005  libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll!_gtk_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED
000000006FC36913 0000000000000000 00007FF9A6E05BE5 0000000000000001  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!g_closure_invoke  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gclosure.c @ 810]
000000006FC48AFC 0000000004CB30C0 0000000000000000 000000000F5E05C0  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!signal_emit_unlocked_R  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gsignal.c @ 3780]
000000006FC52BCF 000000000F5E05C0 000000006F9EA1EA 0000000000000000  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!g_signal_emit_valist  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gsignal.c @ 3508]
000000006FC53708 000000003259BC80 000000006FC3B1BD 000000000F5E05C0  libgobject-2.0-0.dll!g_signal_emit  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../gobject/gsignal.c @ 3554]
000000006F9EA73D 0000000000000000 000000006F9EDCCE 0000000000000000  libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll!gtk_widget_event_internal
000000006F88B14A 0000000070700D10 000000006FF8346C 0000000002161320  libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll!gtk_propagate_event
000000006F88B68C 000000000156F690 00007FF900000000 000000000156F690  libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll!gtk_main_do_event
00000000706FC42C 0000000000000000 000000000156F750 0000000004179230  libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll!gdk_event_dispatch
000000006FF66083 0000000000000000 0000000000000003 0000000000EE118F  libglib-2.0-0.dll!g_main_context_dispatch  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../glib/gmain.c @ 3309]
000000006FF66288 0000000100000000 0000000064400000 0000000000EE118F  libglib-2.0-0.dll! ??   [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../glib/gmain.c @ 4047]
000000006FF66694 0000000000000000 00000000012268C0 000000000423BDD0  libglib-2.0-0.dll!g_main_loop_run  [/home/ardour/win-build-w64/glib-2.64.1/build/../glib/gmain.c @ 4241]
000000006F88A2B0 00000000010EACA1 000000000047AAF0 0000000000000000  libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll!gtk_main
000000006C60B3DF 0000000000000001 000000000156FBB0 000000000156FAF0  gtkmm2ext-0.dll!Gtkmm2ext::UI::run
0000000000EAA339 0000000000000001 000000000355DCC0 0000000000000000  Ardour.exe!main
00000000004013C7 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000  Ardour.exe!__tmainCRTStartup  [./build/x86_64-w64-mingw32-x86_64-w64-mingw32-crt/./mingw-w64-crt/crt/crtexe.c @ 339]
00000000004014CB 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000  Ardour.exe!WinMainCRTStartup  [./build/x86_64-w64-mingw32-x86_64-w64-mingw32-crt/./mingw-w64-crt/crt/crtexe.c @ 195]
00007FF9A781257D 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000  KERNEL32.DLL!BaseThreadInitThunk
00007FF9A906AA78 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000  ntdll.dll!RtlUserThreadStart

Ardour.exe
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Windows 6.2.9200
DrMingw 0.9.2
Ardour-8.1.0-crash-1697985563.txt (11,575 bytes)   

benald

2023-10-22 20:06

reporter   ~0028242

I managed to copy this from the log before a snapshot crash just now....
2023-10-22T20:39:03 [ERROR]: BackendPort::connect (): wrong port-type trying to connect ardour:Arpeggio rec fr track1/audio_out 1 and ardour:1 bright grand/midi_in 1
2023-10-22T20:39:03 [ERROR]: BackendPort::connect (): wrong port-type trying to connect ardour:Arpeggio rec fr track1/audio_out 1 and ardour:1 dulcimer/midi_in 1
2023-10-22T20:39:03 [ERROR]: BackendPort::connect (): wrong port-type trying to connect ardour:Arpeggio rec fr track1/audio_out 2 and ardour:Arpeggio rec fr track1/midi_in 1
2023-10-22T20:39:03 [INFO]: Loading user ui scripts file C:\Users\bj\AppData\Local\Ardour8\ui_scripts
2023-10-22T20:39:03 [INFO]: Loading plugin order file C:\Users\bj\AppData\Local\Ardour8\plugin_metadata\plugin_order
2023-10-22T20:39:04 [INFO]: Loading history from C:\Users\bj\Dropbox\Ardour\Ardour 8 arpeggios\Ardour 8 arpeggios.history
2023-10-22T20:46:41 [ERROR]: Exception while writing C:\Users\bj\Dropbox\Ardour\Ardour 8 arpeggios\interchange\Ardour 8 arpeggios\midifiles\Take31_Arpeggio rec fr track1-320.mid, file may be corrupt/unusable
2023-10-22T20:53:58 [ERROR]: ardour::connect: Invalid Source port: (system:midi_capture_LPK25)

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2023-10-21 10:26 benald New Issue
2023-10-21 14:56 x42 Note Added: 0028233
2023-10-21 15:00 benald Note Added: 0028234
2023-10-21 15:46 x42 Note Added: 0028235
2023-10-21 19:34 benald Note Added: 0028237
2023-10-22 11:08 benald Note Added: 0028240
2023-10-22 11:08 benald File Added: CrashLog.zip
2023-10-22 14:46 benald Note Added: 0028241
2023-10-22 14:46 benald File Added: Ardour-8.1.0-crash-1697985563.txt
2023-10-22 20:06 benald Note Added: 0028242