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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0009341 | ardour | features | public | 2023-05-21 18:04 | 2023-06-07 23:45 |
| Reporter | dsfdsf | Assigned To | x42 | ||
| Priority | high | Severity | feature | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Summary | 0009341: Add K-meter to "Default meter type for tracks" | ||||
| Description | why tracks don't have option to set default metering as k-meters | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
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> why tracks don't have option to set default metering as k-meters Because it does not (usually) make sense. When tracking you need to make sure to not clip the signal, and hence needs a digital-peak meter. Measuring loudness as perceived by humans is useful during mixing after summing on busses or the master-bus. see also https://manual.ardour.org/meters/ |
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as far i understand k-meter is RMS + peak meter but just scaled by k-system if K-meter problem is it doesn't show cliping it have peak meter and also when you achieve top of this scale (doesn't mater what number you receive) you are get cliped k-meter give user a ton of headroom - cliping?? so maybe some user (like me) want mix with k-meter and set it zero as ref in tracks to mix with ton of headroom then in bus processing go it up near to clip level i dont think this option be worth to kill |
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I'd second this feature request. IMO, K-System meters offer great ergonomics for track metering when recording. I typically use K-20 for individual tracks, and K-14 on the master for mixing and mastering, and if the levels are around 0 on the tracks, it usually ends up around 0 on the master. Clipping is very unlikely if you track around 0 on a K-20, and there's extra CPU load, I haven't noticed it! I think it would be nice to have them (and why not all types?) available as options for the default track meter type. |
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@x42 With 32-bit float processing, you’ll never clip so long as your audio stays in the DAW |
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@x42 I invite you to a duel Whoever killed that one will decide on this option :D |
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> With 32-bit float processing, you’ll never clip so long as your audio stays in the DAW sure by tracks are for tracking, and usually have analog inputs. > I invite you to a duel OK, my weapon of choice is the banjo :) Well Ardour already provides sufficient rope to shoot yourself in the foot, and if you want K-meters.. why not. Might as well also offer 0dB Peak meters for busses. |
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Added in 7.4.220 |
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Thank you. :) It did occur to me that something like K-20 is well-suited to channel monitoring for live mixing as well. I do agree that avoiding clipping when capturing is one of the most important things (but 24 bits is really a lot of resolution). And, why not... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDsn-RRmDXU |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2023-05-21 18:04 | dsfdsf | New Issue | |
| 2023-05-22 03:17 | x42 | Note Added: 0027664 | |
| 2023-05-23 10:07 | dsfdsf | Note Added: 0027674 | |
| 2023-05-25 06:09 | screwtop | Note Added: 0027681 | |
| 2023-05-27 11:15 | dsfdsf | Note Added: 0027687 | |
| 2023-05-28 17:06 | dsfdsf | Note Added: 0027693 | |
| 2023-06-07 20:22 | x42 | Note Added: 0027706 | |
| 2023-06-07 20:23 | x42 | Assigned To | => x42 |
| 2023-06-07 20:23 | x42 | Status | new => resolved |
| 2023-06-07 20:23 | x42 | Resolution | open => fixed |
| 2023-06-07 20:23 | x42 | Note Added: 0027707 | |
| 2023-06-07 23:45 | screwtop | Note Added: 0027708 |
