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|0009341||ardour||features||public||2023-05-21 18:04||2023-06-07 23:45|
|Summary||0009341: Add K-meter to "Default meter type for tracks"|
|Description||why tracks don't have option to set default metering as k-meters|
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> why tracks don't have option to set default metering as k-meters
Because it does not (usually) make sense. When tracking you need to make sure to not clip the signal, and hence needs a digital-peak meter.
Measuring loudness as perceived by humans is useful during mixing after summing on busses or the master-bus.
see also https://manual.ardour.org/meters/
as far i understand k-meter is RMS + peak meter but just scaled by k-system
if K-meter problem is it doesn't show cliping
it have peak meter and also when you achieve top of this scale (doesn't mater what number you receive) you are get cliped
k-meter give user a ton of headroom - cliping??
so maybe some user (like me) want mix with k-meter and set it zero as ref in tracks to mix with ton of headroom
then in bus processing go it up near to clip level
i dont think this option be worth to kill
I'd second this feature request. IMO, K-System meters offer great ergonomics for track metering when recording. I typically use K-20 for individual tracks, and K-14 on the master for mixing and mastering, and if the levels are around 0 on the tracks, it usually ends up around 0 on the master. Clipping is very unlikely if you track around 0 on a K-20, and there's extra CPU load, I haven't noticed it!
I think it would be nice to have them (and why not all types?) available as options for the default track meter type.
With 32-bit float processing, you’ll never clip so long as your audio stays in the DAW
I invite you to a duel
Whoever killed that one will decide on this option
> With 32-bit float processing, you’ll never clip so long as your audio stays in the DAW
sure by tracks are for tracking, and usually have analog inputs.
> I invite you to a duel
OK, my weapon of choice is the banjo :)
Well Ardour already provides sufficient rope to shoot yourself in the foot, and if you want K-meters.. why not. Might as well also offer 0dB Peak meters for busses.
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Thank you. :) It did occur to me that something like K-20 is well-suited to channel monitoring for live mixing as well. I do agree that avoiding clipping when capturing is one of the most important things (but 24 bits is really a lot of resolution).
And, why not...
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