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0008910ardourfeaturespublic2022-05-04 13:47
Reporterjohne53 Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status newResolutionopen 
PlatformMicrosoftOSWindowsOS Version10
Product Version6.9 
Summary0008910: Strange inverted behaviour with track groups
DescriptionThis was first reported by a Mixbus user but I couldn't reproduce it in Mixbus - however it seems very reproducible in Ardour. Although it refers to tracks, it's easier to see in the Edit window.
Steps To Reproduce1) Select two Editor tracks and click 'Group->New Group' to add them to a group.
2) Moving one fader will now (correctly) move them both.
3) 'Shift+Move' will (correctly) move only the selected fader.
4) Now select 'Group->Edit Group' and mark the group as inactive.
5) Each fader can now (correctly) be moved independently - i.e. as if they weren't grouped.
6) BUT - 'Shift+Move' now moves both faders.
Additional InformationThe Mixbus user found it in MB for Linux (not sure which Linux)
TagsNo tags attached.

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related to 0007741 resolvedx42 Group gain sharing should never happen for groups where it's not enabled 

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x42

2022-05-03 18:18

administrator   ~0026427

That is intentional. Shift "inverts" the group behavior.

johne53

2022-05-04 11:17

reporter   ~0026428

In that case there seems to be an inconsistency between Ardour and Mixbus - namely:-

1) Select two Editor tracks and click 'Group->New Group' to add them to a group.
2) Moving one fader will now (correctly) move them both.
3) 'Shift+Move' will (correctly) move only the selected fader.
4) Now select 'Group->Edit Group' and mark the group as inactive.
5) Each fader can now (correctly) be moved independently - i.e. as if they weren't grouped.
6) And in Ardour - 'Shift+Move' now moves both faders.
7) But in Mixbus - 'Shift+Move' still only moves the selected fader.

johne53

2022-05-04 11:23

reporter   ~0026429

Sorry, I should have added that items 6) and 7) refer to adjustments made in the Mixer window (adjustments made in the Edit window seem okay)

x42

2022-05-04 13:47

administrator   ~0026430

(6) Ardour -- is what I expect to happen. Shift + action inverts the group setting: deactivated groups (group-settings) are enabled, and vice versa.

But yes, Mixbus changes various hardcoded modifiers in Route-UI for their mixer-strips. e.g. shift+click does not reset the Mixbus-Faders to default (double-click does).
Mute/Solo buttons group-override is ctrl+click in Ardour, but shift+click for Mixbus. and Solo-isolated toggle is also different ctrl+click in Mixbus...

It is inconsistent since the Ardour widgets retain their original behaviour.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2022-05-03 09:10 johne53 New Issue
2022-05-03 18:18 x42 Note Added: 0026427
2022-05-04 11:17 johne53 Note Added: 0026428
2022-05-04 11:23 johne53 Note Added: 0026429
2022-05-04 12:34 colinf Relationship added related to 0007741
2022-05-04 13:47 x42 Note Added: 0026430