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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0008662 | ardour | bugs | public | 2021-04-11 17:43 | 2025-08-15 23:49 |
| Reporter | loplkc | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | new | Resolution | open | ||
| Platform | Arch | OS | Linux | OS Version | (any) |
| Product Version | 6.6 | ||||
| Summary | 0008662: Vitalium instances are randomly altered when reopening a session | ||||
| Description | After saving a session with one or more Vitalium instances, closing Ardour, and reopening the session immediately (or later), various parameters will be altered. The most common alteration is the reversion of samples or oscillators to full volume, but sometimes arbritary parameters will be changed, such as spectral warping modes randomly being enabled or envelopes being lengthened. On my system (both in Ardour 6.5 and Ardour 6.6), this happens consistently to every single new session I create. On older sessions, it seems to selectively apply to some instances but not others. | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | 1. Create a new session in Ardour. 2. Add at least one MIDI track with a Vitalium instance. 3. Set the Vitalium instance to a previously saved patch. 4. Save the session. 5. Close Ardour. 6. Open Ardour. 7. Load the session. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
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Are you using the LV2 or VST3 plugin? |
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I use the Vitalium LV2 plugin. I do not know if Vitalium is available as a VST3 plugin. |
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actually crazy this has not been fixed yet. its almost 5 years. vitalium is one of the best , if not only decent wavetable synth that l inux has, and you cant even use it in ardour. how many more years till this gets fixed, because im running into the same issue today. looked it up only to learn its been an issue for a long time. whats going on here? is it really that big of a bug? |
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i have found one work around. use carla rack to host the lv2 inside of ardour. it seems to be able to save the patch correctly. if carla rack can save the patch, im not sure why ardour cant. |
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The only guess I have without actually installing Vitalium, and investigating would be that the plugin changes its settings when it receives a MIDI bank/patch change. By default Ardour restores the most recently received patch on session load. This can be disabled. There is an option in Editor's MIDI Track header context menu: "Restore Patch". |
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PS. Ardour, like Carla, does not even directly save/load the LV2 plugins state. That is all handled by liblilv. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2021-04-11 17:43 | loplkc | New Issue | |
| 2021-04-11 20:13 | x42 | Note Added: 0025704 | |
| 2021-04-11 20:13 | x42 | Status | new => feedback |
| 2021-04-11 21:18 | loplkc | Note Added: 0025705 | |
| 2021-04-11 21:18 | loplkc | Status | feedback => new |
| 2025-08-15 23:32 | pyrotek45 | Note Added: 0029384 | |
| 2025-08-15 23:46 | pyrotek45 | Note Added: 0029385 | |
| 2025-08-15 23:48 | x42 | Note Added: 0029386 | |
| 2025-08-15 23:49 | x42 | Note Added: 0029387 |
