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0006542ardourbugspublic2015-09-06 08:37
Reporterlootre Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version4.1 
Summary0006542: MIDI region lost on tracks, still in region list.
DescriptionI'm using UbuntuStudio with Ardour 4.2 (subscriber) and I recently started to use Ardour to make symphonic arrangements. I use 49 MIDI tracks and 49 audio tracks. It seems to me that the first 10 MIDI tracks cannot save the regions on the tracks. My regions still exists in region list and I don't get any error at start. I already tried to replace again all my region on the right track and save, but on next loading there have disappear from tracks.
Additional InformationArdour 4.2 (not available in "Product Version" drop-down menu).
UbuntuStudio 15.04
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2015-08-25 18:59

 

SonatinaSymphonic.tar (1,911,808 bytes)

florianb

2015-08-25 19:56

reporter   ~0017110

Last edited: 2015-08-25 19:59

Hi lootre,
 
I use 32 midi channels w/ 64 audio tracks (orchestra too :D sending to LinuxSampler via netjack) and have been using Ardour for a long time now.
Nothing like this ever happened to me.
 
My guess is that the Ubuntu build sucks. I've always built it native from the sources (git) on a Slackware64. Ubuntu has never really been the most brilliant distribution... anyway.
 
But let's try to clarify your issue:
1. What about the midi files? Do they get created when you make these 10 regions? do they disappear when you save/open? or do they stay but are not loaded in Ardour at opening?
2. Does this happen SYSTEMATICALLY or is it random, and always the exact 10 first tracks?
3. Do you give any particular name to the tracks & regions? any character that is not very basic?

x42

2015-08-25 20:01

administrator   ~0017111

I had a quick look and it seem you have duplicate names. eg. "Horns St" exists as both Audio and MIDI track, which eventually leads to duplicate playlist names (they have unique IDs so it *should* be fine) but it could also be related to http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=5681 and http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=6497


for example:
# grep "Playlist" SonatinaSymphonic.ardour | grep "Horns St"
    <Playlist id="59085" name="Horns St" type="midi" orig-track-id="10512" frozen="no" combine-ops="0"/>
    <Playlist id="60589" name="Horns St" type="audio" orig-track-id="20033" frozen="no" combine-ops="0"/>
    <Playlist id="20061" name="Horns St" type="audio" orig-track-id="20033" frozen="no" combine-ops="0"/>
    <Playlist id="10540" name="Horns St" type="midi" orig-track-id="10512" frozen="no" combine-ops="0"/>
    <Playlist id="100311" name="Horns St" type="audio" orig-track-id="20033" frozen="no" combine-ops="0"/>
    <Playlist id="136597" name="Horns St" type="midi" orig-track-id="10512" frozen="no" combine-ops="0"/>
    <Playlist id="142867" name="Horns St" type="audio" orig-track-id="20033" frozen="no" combine-ops="0"/>

Could you re-create the tracks, give them a different name and try to drag the regions in place on the new tracks?

florianb

2015-08-25 20:04

reporter   ~0017112

I use the same name for MIDI and AUDIO tracks, but I add an underscore "_" before for all midi tracks so I don't get confused anywhere. It's handy.
e.g. PIANO1 and _PIANO1

lootre

2015-08-26 09:57

reporter   ~0017114

Hi!

Thank you all for your answers!

@florianb: about your questions
1. Yes they disappear from the track when I save, close the session and reopen it.
2. It happens systematically.
3. I didn't rename the regions, I let the auto-created names.

When I created my MIDI and audio tracks, Ardour automatically added .1 at the end of the name when he detected tracks with the same name.

@x42: In the session the names are not exactly the same... I'll check that.

OK I'll take a look of these naming problems and come back to you if something changed.

Thanks a lot!

lootre

2015-09-06 08:37

reporter   ~0017145

Hi,

So I tested a couple of things, but didn't get better results... Instead, a list of new bug/question!

I tried to rename all my MIDI regions, no difference. I had a little hope when I tried to make snapshots of the session and then get back to these snapshots for it almost worked, but then I lost other regions...!

Also:
- When I drag and drop MIDI regions to a track, it doesn't drops the desired region but drops a new copy of this region.
- Bounce (with or without processing) doesn't bounce at all, it just creates copy in the region list.

I installed Ardour 4.2 with the installer. Do you advice me to compile it from the source?

Thanks for your help!

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2015-08-25 18:59 lootre New Issue
2015-08-25 18:59 lootre File Added: SonatinaSymphonic.tar
2015-08-25 19:56 florianb Note Added: 0017110
2015-08-25 19:57 florianb Note Edited: 0017110
2015-08-25 19:59 florianb Note Edited: 0017110
2015-08-25 20:01 x42 Note Added: 0017111
2015-08-25 20:04 florianb Note Added: 0017112
2015-08-26 09:57 lootre Note Added: 0017114
2015-09-06 08:37 lootre Note Added: 0017145