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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0010412ardourbugspublic2026-06-23 06:53
ReporterGhostsonAcid Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status newResolutionopen 
PlatformmacOSOSMojaveOS Version10.14.6
Product Version9.7 
Summary0010412: Region Envelope shows only when interaction occurs
DescriptionSomething I've noticed over the years but never mentioned...

After first opening a project, Region Envelope is only initially displayed once your mouse 'interacts' with the region (-by hovering over it). (--> See gif 1.)
Moreover, expanding and shrinking vertical track height makes envelope automation disappear and reappear seemingly randomly. (--> See gif 2.)

Suggestion:
It would be nice if region envelope *always* showed. : )

Thanks,
-Joe

[PS: Is this another macOS-specific graphics thing? o___o]
Additional InformationToggling the "Use macOS to determine GUI redraw areas" option in Preferences has no impact either way, it seems.
Tagsautomation, envelope, region

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GhostsonAcid

2026-06-19 09:16

reporter   ~0030525

GhostsonAcid

2026-06-19 09:18

reporter   ~0030526

jean-emmanuel

2026-06-21 07:30

updater   ~0030532

What mouse mode are you using ? Here it works as expected (all lines shown in edit & draw modes, all hidden in grab mode)

jean-emmanuel

2026-06-21 08:02

updater   ~0030533

I confirm the 2nd issue.

jean-emmanuel

2026-06-21 08:38

updater   ~0030534

This should be fixed in git now !

GhostsonAcid

2026-06-21 10:00

reporter   ~0030535

@jean-emmanuel That's awesome to hear (i.e. read). Thank you!!! : )
I'll test it when the next build is ready, and let you know if that fixes it all. : )

Now, I had to take a minute to track-down the setting...
(Goddam preferences forest... O___o -___-)

I was in Grab Mode (-which I'm in probably 90% of the time), and I had this enabled:
Preferencess -> Appearance -> Regions -> Show gain envelopes in audio regions: in all modes

Thanks again!
-J

jean-emmanuel

2026-06-21 10:58

updater   ~0030536

Thanks, the fix also works with this setting enabled (which exhibits another funny bug when trimming regions)

GhostsonAcid

2026-06-22 18:47

reporter   ~0030538

@jean-emmanuel
Works great! -Thank you! : ))
Confirmed:
-No hovering of the mouse needed anymore to show the envelope immediately.
-And also doesn't appear/disappear when adjusting track height. : )

...
Now, what do you mean by this other, "funny bug"?
Do you mean little visual delays like this maybe? (-See attached.)

-J

jean-emmanuel

2026-06-22 18:48

updater   ~0030539

Precisely ;)

jean-emmanuel

2026-06-23 06:53

updater   ~0030540

Fixed in upcoming nightly. The envelope ought to be hidden when trimming to avoid this but it broke at some point in the past.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2026-06-19 09:15 GhostsonAcid New Issue
2026-06-19 09:15 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: automation
2026-06-19 09:15 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: envelope
2026-06-19 09:15 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: region
2026-06-19 09:16 GhostsonAcid Note Added: 0030525
2026-06-19 09:16 GhostsonAcid File Added: Ardour 9,7 - Region Envelope Shows Only When Interaction Occurs (1).gif
2026-06-19 09:18 GhostsonAcid Note Added: 0030526
2026-06-19 09:18 GhostsonAcid File Added: Ardour 9,7 - Region Envelope Shows Only When Interaction Occurs (2).gif
2026-06-21 07:30 jean-emmanuel Note Added: 0030532
2026-06-21 08:02 jean-emmanuel Note Added: 0030533
2026-06-21 08:38 jean-emmanuel Note Added: 0030534
2026-06-21 10:00 GhostsonAcid Note Added: 0030535
2026-06-21 10:58 jean-emmanuel Note Added: 0030536
2026-06-22 18:47 GhostsonAcid Note Added: 0030538
2026-06-22 18:47 GhostsonAcid File Added: Ardour 9,7 - Trimming, Adjusting Regions (1).gif
2026-06-22 18:48 jean-emmanuel Note Added: 0030539
2026-06-23 06:53 jean-emmanuel Note Added: 0030540