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0010194ardourbugspublic2026-02-21 09:02
ReporterIndustrialPowerSound Assigned Topaul  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status assignedResolutionopen 
PlatformMicrosoftOSWindowsOS Version11
Product Version9.0 
Summary0010194: But with automation lines
DescriptionIn Ardour 9 I experience that drawing automation lines has a bug in that when you click on the automation line to insert an edit point, the edit point isn't entered at the level of the line, but bumps that point to the max setting of whatever automation you do. Just tried with Fader and Pan so far, but it's the same on both. I.e. for Fader, if the line is at -15dB and you click on the line to insert an edit point, the inserted point will get bumped to +6dB. Clicking above or below the line works as it should. In Ardour 8 the point was inserted on the line, without changing the level, and for me that is the desired way it should function.
Steps To ReproduceInsert Fader automation, set it to Touch and click on the automation line at any point.
Tags9.0, automation

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paul

2026-02-20 17:24

administrator   ~0029934

please check whether you have this option enabled:
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paul

2026-02-20 17:28

administrator   ~0029935

I cannot reproduce this behavior with that option on or off ...

GhostsonAcid

2026-02-20 17:34

reporter   ~0029936

@paul While you're at this...

Is it possible to make region *envelope* abide by this setting at well?
Because currently, in Draw Mode if I edit region envelope, it *always* ignores the y-axis position of the mouse, even if that setting is off/disabled.

Thanks,
-J

GhostsonAcid

2026-02-20 17:41

reporter   ~0029937

And FYI: I also cannot replicate the specific bug (e.g. new points jump to +6db) as described...

@IndustrialPowerSound Are you able to replicate this bug in other/new projects, or other automation lanes?

IndustrialPowerSound

2026-02-20 19:16

reporter   ~0029940

@GhostsonAcid I can replicate this in both new and old projects, and just tested it on the High/Low Pass plugin, at a point where the cutoff was set at 8000hz; clicking the automation line bumped the new point to 20000hz (the max).

However, @paul, setting that option on does fix the issue. Thanks for the tip!

paul

2026-02-20 19:17

administrator   ~0029942

Can you much more specific information and/or just a small test session archive that shows the problem?

IndustrialPowerSound

2026-02-20 19:21

reporter   ~0029945

@paul If you tell me how I make a test session archive I can try that. However, since the option you mentioned seem to fix it, it's not that big a deal anymore for me.

paul

2026-02-20 19:24

administrator   ~0029946

Session > Archive

It is a big deal because the behavior with the option off is still incorrect

paul

2026-02-20 19:50

administrator   ~0029951

@GhostsOnAcid ... done (for region gain/FX lines)

IndustrialPowerSound

2026-02-20 20:06

reporter   ~0029954

@paul I'll try to put together one of those session archives for you tomorrow then.

IndustrialPowerSound

2026-02-21 09:02

reporter   ~0029965

@paul Here's a small session archive. Just opened an empty project, put a MIDI track in it and made one fader automation point in it. With the option you mentioned back off that point got bumped to the max again. Hope it is of help, if not, let me know what more you'd like me to try.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2026-02-20 12:08 IndustrialPowerSound New Issue
2026-02-20 12:08 IndustrialPowerSound Tag Attached: 9.0
2026-02-20 12:08 IndustrialPowerSound Tag Attached: automation
2026-02-20 17:24 paul Note Added: 0029934
2026-02-20 17:24 paul File Added: ap.png
2026-02-20 17:24 paul Assigned To => paul
2026-02-20 17:24 paul Status new => feedback
2026-02-20 17:28 paul Note Added: 0029935
2026-02-20 17:34 GhostsonAcid Note Added: 0029936
2026-02-20 17:41 GhostsonAcid Note Added: 0029937
2026-02-20 19:16 IndustrialPowerSound Note Added: 0029940
2026-02-20 19:16 IndustrialPowerSound Status feedback => assigned
2026-02-20 19:17 paul Note Added: 0029942
2026-02-20 19:21 IndustrialPowerSound Note Added: 0029945
2026-02-20 19:24 paul Note Added: 0029946
2026-02-20 19:50 paul Note Added: 0029951
2026-02-20 20:06 IndustrialPowerSound Note Added: 0029954
2026-02-21 09:02 IndustrialPowerSound Note Added: 0029965
2026-02-21 09:02 IndustrialPowerSound File Added: Automation Test Session_2026-02-21_095837.ardour-session-archive