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0010060ardourbugspublic2025-12-15 21:36
Reporterandrew246 Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status newResolutionopen 
PlatformUbuntuOSLinuxOS Version(any)
Product Version9.0-rc 
Summary0010060: The mixer and editor windows can't be made smaller than the size they are initially presented at.
DescriptionI just tried rc9. When launched it found my 8.12 config files and I took the option to copy settings from there. I then loaded a previous project. The mixer window in particular is quite large and whilst I can make it bigger by dragging the left and right sides, I can't reduce the width beyond the size initially displayed. Same for the editor window.

I am not a very experienced Ardour user so apologies if I'm missing something obvious.

The Terminal window below mentions "WEAK JACK" - don't think that ever appeared with 8.12.
Also there are various messages about not able to connect MIDI.
Steps To Reproduceas above
Additional InformationUbuntu Studio 24.04, plasma. Project uses ALSA. One USB audio device - focusrite 2i4
Launched using "Ardour9" in Terminal, contents as follows -

Ardour9
bind txt domain [gtk2_ardour9] to /opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/share/locale
Ardour9.0.rc1.54 (built using 9.0-rc1-54-g6eeed82fb3 and GCC version 10.2.1 20210110)
Ardour: [INFO]: Your system is configured to limit Ardour to 1048576 open files
Ardour: [INFO]: Loading system configuration file /opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/etc/system_config
Ardour: [INFO]: Loading user configuration file /home/andrew/.config/ardour9/config
Ardour: [INFO]: CPU vendor: GenuineIntel
Ardour: [INFO]: AVX capable processor
Ardour: [INFO]: AVX with FMA capable processor
Ardour: [INFO]: CPU brand: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
Ardour: [INFO]: Using AVX and FMA optimized routines
Ardour: [INFO]: Loading plugin meta data file /opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/share/plugin_metadata/plugin_tags
Ardour: [INFO]: add_lrdf_data '/home/andrew/.config/ardour9/rdf:/opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/share/rdf:/usr/local/share/ladspa/rdf:/usr/share/ladspa/rdf'
Ardour: [INFO]: read rdf_file 'file:///usr/share/ladspa/rdf/swh-aux.rdf'
Ardour: [INFO]: read rdf_file 'file:///usr/share/ladspa/rdf/caps.rdf'
Ardour: [INFO]: read rdf_file 'file:///usr/share/ladspa/rdf/tap-plugins.rdf'
Ardour: [INFO]: read rdf_file 'file:///usr/share/ladspa/rdf/blop.rdf'
Ardour: [INFO]: read rdf_file 'file:///usr/share/ladspa/rdf/swh-scales.rdf'
Ardour: [INFO]: read rdf_file 'file:///usr/share/ladspa/rdf/swh-plugins.rdf'
Ardour: [INFO]: read rdf_file 'file:///usr/share/ladspa/rdf/ladspa-rubberband.rdf'
Ardour: [INFO]: read rdf_file 'file:///usr/share/ladspa/rdf/ladspa.rdfs'
Ardour: [INFO]: read rdf_file 'file:///usr/share/ladspa/rdf/tap_reverb.rdf'
*** WEAK-JACK: initializing
*** WEAK-JACK: OK. (0)
Cannot install SIGPIPE error handler
Ardour: [INFO]: Loading default ui configuration file /opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/etc/default_ui_config
Ardour: [INFO]: Loading 468 MIDI patches from /opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/share/patchfiles
Ardour: [INFO]: Loading user ui configuration file /home/andrew/.config/ardour9/ui_config
Ardour: [INFO]: Loading colour file /opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/share/themes/dark-ardour.colors
Ardour: [INFO]: Loading ui configuration file /opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/etc/clearlooks.rc
Ardour: [INFO]: Loading bindings from /opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/etc/ardour.keys
Loading ui configuration file /opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/etc/clearlooks.rc
ardour-request-device: Failed to acquire device: 'Audio1'
Device or resource busy

(ardour-9.0.rc1.54:8988): Gtk-WARNING **: 15:17:47.361: Theme directory places/128 of theme ubuntustudio-dark has no size field


(ardour-9.0.rc1.54:8988): Gtk-WARNING **: 15:17:47.362: Theme directory places/scalable of theme ubuntustudio-dark has no size field

Found nothing along /home/andrew/.config/ardour9/templates:/opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/share/templates
 --[[ ALSA Device hw:USB,0
playback
  nchan : 4
  fsamp : 48000
  fsize : 256
  nfrag : 3
  format : S32_LE
  access : MMAP interleaved
capture
  nchan : 2
  fsamp : 48000
  fsize : 256
  nfrag : 3
  format : S32_LE
  access : MMAP interleaved
synced
 --]]
AlsaSeqMidiIO: cannot connect output port.
AlsaSeqMidiIO: cannot connect input port.
AlsaSeqMidiIO: cannot connect output port.
AlsaSeqMidiIO: cannot connect input port.
no more csLADSPA plugins
Set cursor set to default
locate to 0 took 7070 usecs for 10 tracks = 707 per track
Frame::on_size_allocate 218x319 < 256x319
Graph::drop_threads() sema-counts: 0, 0, 1
Found nothing along /home/andrew/.config/ardour9/templates:/opt/Ardour-9.0.rc1.54-dbg/share/templates
AlsaSeqMidiOut: MIDI OUT THREAD STOPPED
AlsaSeqMidiIn: MIDI IN THREAD STOPPED
andrew@rake:~$
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x42

2025-12-15 15:40

administrator   ~0029583

Those additional messages are because you run a debug build, and the output looks normal.

As for the actual issue. Can you never shrink it at all, or do you perhaps just reach the min. required width?

Ardour 9 requires a larger screen than 8.12. The min. width is defined by the editor toolbar and application bar.
You can try to hide some elements in the latter (Preferences > Appearance > Application bar).

andrew246

2025-12-15 21:33

reporter   ~0029584

Thanks for the quick response Robin.
Yes, I reach the min required width. I've always worked with a detached mixer window. In 8.12 my mixer menu bar has none of the tools, clocks etc, there is just mixer strips, so I can make it use just a quarter, say, of my monitor, with the editor using the rest. In 9, all the menubar items have been duplicated, and removing something removes it from both windows, which of course is not good. Is the preference copying routine when first using 9 not quite subtle enough perhaps?

andrew246

2025-12-15 21:36

reporter   ~0029585

My Mixer window

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