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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0010049ardourbugspublic2025-12-05 18:08
ReporterGhostsonAcid Assigned Tox42  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status resolvedResolutionno change required 
PlatformmacOSOSMojaveOS Version10.14.6
Product Version9.0-rc 
Summary0010049: Shift-Left-Click upon an individual track's fader resets ALL faders of that group to 0db
DescriptionIs this not a bug?
Or is this normal behavior?

I'm trying to reset just a single fader for a single track, but using Shift-Left-Click upon a single fader resets ALL faders of that group to 0db.

Tags0db, reset, reset fader, reset gain

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GhostsonAcid

2025-12-04 10:01

reporter  

x42

2025-12-05 00:40

administrator   ~0029551

Yes, expected behavior.

Shift + LMB is the "reset to default" operator.

Since Ardour 7.5 there selection acts as if a all selected tracks are in a group (regardless of the explicit group).
Ardour 9 adds a preference to opt-out: Prefs > General > Group operations on selected tracks

GhostsonAcid

2025-12-05 17:57

reporter   ~0029552

x42, no, I believe you are mistaken.
I'll try to be succinct...

1. First off, only ONE track (or NO track) was selected during my test (-see the previous .gif). This does not match with the described behavior for the "Group operations on selected tracks" setting (-see next picture).
2. I tried disabling "Group operations on selected tracks", and it did not change the outcome of my test.
3. I just discovered another, related bug: If Relative Gain is 'checked' for a group, even if OVERALL Gain-sharing is NOT active, this "reset to default" operator will reset that track's fader to 0db, and impart relative fader changes to the others in the group (-see the next .gif).

x42

2025-12-05 18:08

administrator   ~0029553

Ah you mean inverse group behavior: enabled group is disabled and vice versa.

That is also expected, there is a hidden preference for that "group-override-inverts". To disable this add
<Option name="group-override-inverts" value="0"/>


to .config/ardour9/config

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid New Issue
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: 0db
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: reset
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: reset fader
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: reset gain
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid File Added: Ardour (v9pre) - Shift-Left-Click resets all Faders in Group.gif
2025-12-05 00:40 x42 Note Added: 0029551
2025-12-05 00:40 x42 Assigned To => x42
2025-12-05 00:40 x42 Status new => resolved
2025-12-05 00:40 x42 Resolution open => no change required
2025-12-05 17:57 GhostsonAcid Note Added: 0029552
2025-12-05 17:57 GhostsonAcid File Added: Screen Shot 2025-12-05 at 7.37.34 PM.png
2025-12-05 17:57 GhostsonAcid File Added: Ardour (v9pre) - Relative Gain Changing For Whole of Group, Despite Gain Sharing Disabled and No Tracks Selected.gif
2025-12-05 18:08 x42 Note Added: 0029553