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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0010049ardourbugspublic2025-12-08 21:51
ReporterGhostsonAcid Assigned Tox42  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status resolvedResolutionno change required 
PlatformmacOSOSMojaveOS Version10.14.6
Product Version9.0-rc 
Summary0010049: Shift-Left-Click upon an individual track's fader resets ALL faders of that group to 0db
DescriptionIs this not a bug?
Or is this normal behavior?

I'm trying to reset just a single fader for a single track, but using Shift-Left-Click upon a single fader resets ALL faders of that group to 0db.

Tags0db, reset, reset fader, reset gain

Relationships

related to 0007741 assignedx42 Group gain sharing should never happen for groups where it's not enabled 

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GhostsonAcid

2025-12-04 10:01

reporter  

x42

2025-12-05 00:40

administrator   ~0029551

Yes, expected behavior.

Shift + LMB is the "reset to default" operator.

Since Ardour 7.5 there selection acts as if a all selected tracks are in a group (regardless of the explicit group).
Ardour 9 adds a preference to opt-out: Prefs > General > Group operations on selected tracks

GhostsonAcid

2025-12-05 17:57

reporter   ~0029552

x42, no, I believe you are mistaken.
I'll try to be succinct...

1. First off, only ONE track (or NO track) was selected during my test (-see the previous .gif). This does not match with the described behavior for the "Group operations on selected tracks" setting (-see next picture).
2. I tried disabling "Group operations on selected tracks", and it did not change the outcome of my test.
3. I just discovered another, related bug: If Relative Gain is 'checked' for a group, even if OVERALL Gain-sharing is NOT active, this "reset to default" operator will reset that track's fader to 0db, and impart relative fader changes to the others in the group (-see the next .gif).

x42

2025-12-05 18:08

administrator   ~0029553

Ah you mean inverse group behavior: enabled group is disabled and vice versa.

That is also expected, there is a hidden preference for that "group-override-inverts". To disable this add
<Option name="group-override-inverts" value="0"/>


to .config/ardour9/config

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid New Issue
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: 0db
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: reset
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: reset fader
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid Tag Attached: reset gain
2025-12-04 10:01 GhostsonAcid File Added: Ardour (v9pre) - Shift-Left-Click resets all Faders in Group.gif
2025-12-05 00:40 x42 Note Added: 0029551
2025-12-05 00:40 x42 Assigned To => x42
2025-12-05 00:40 x42 Status new => resolved
2025-12-05 00:40 x42 Resolution open => no change required
2025-12-05 17:57 GhostsonAcid Note Added: 0029552
2025-12-05 17:57 GhostsonAcid File Added: Screen Shot 2025-12-05 at 7.37.34 PM.png
2025-12-05 17:57 GhostsonAcid File Added: Ardour (v9pre) - Relative Gain Changing For Whole of Group, Despite Gain Sharing Disabled and No Tracks Selected.gif
2025-12-05 18:08 x42 Note Added: 0029553
2025-12-08 21:51 colinf Relationship added related to 0007741