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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0002832 | ardour | bugs | public | 2009-08-19 11:28 | 2020-04-19 20:14 |
| Reporter | timblech | Assigned To | paul | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 2.8.2 | ||||
| Summary | 0002832: `mute' doesn't mute | ||||
| Description | with the attached session, muting a track doesn't mute the track. all tracks are connected to the master bus, which is connected to the out ports of the audio interface. when pressing mute, the track is not muted, though. the vu meters of the specific track fall to zero, but the audio signal is still sent to the master bus. | ||||
| Tags | fixed in A3 | ||||
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2009-08-19 11:28
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right-click on the mute button of a track, select what should be muted. This is no bug :) |
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now, that is not really the most user-friendly implementation of this feature :/ i don't know, but isn't it more logical from a user point of view, that by default _all_ mute points should be enabled and not disabled? i usually prefer to spend my time composing, rather than filing bug reports because i cannot find some hidden controls ... |
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I too was surprised that the default changed but on the other hand, you discovered that the "mute" button is more flexible than it looks ;) |
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yes .. however when i explained the issue on the #ardour irc channel, the answer i got after discussing this was `there seems to be a bug, please try an older revision first' :/ |
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This cannot be a "feature" because changing the mute options do not hold through. It will revert back to none on the next session. As such, that is definitely not something intended. Another reason why this is obviously a bug is because /etc/ardour2/ardour_system.rc has: <Option name="mute-affects-pre-fader" value="yes"/> <Option name="mute-affects-post-fader" value="yes"/> <Option name="mute-affects-control-outs" value="yes"/> <Option name="mute-affects-main-outs" value="yes"/> But ~/.ardour2 has: <Option name="mute-affects-pre-fader" value="0"/> <Option name="mute-affects-post-fader" value="0"/> <Option name="mute-affects-control-outs" value="0"/> <Option name="mute-affects-main-outs" value="0"/> You have to close ardour, edit ~/.ardour2 and change the values to "1", not "yes". |
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I just did a quick test: I changed the values in etc/ardour2/ardour_system.rc from "yes" to "1" and now the file ~/.ardour2/ardour.rc gets recreated with the correct values. So it seems the fix would be to change the default ardour_system.rc accordingly. Sorry, don't know how to create a patch. Someboy else? |
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2009-10-02 14:29
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ardour2-mute_fix.patch (2,817 bytes)
Index: ardour_system_sae.rc
===================================================================
--- ardour_system_sae.rc (revision 5717)
+++ ardour_system_sae.rc (working copy)
@@ -5,10 +5,10 @@
<Config>
<Option name="minimum-disk-io-bytes" value="262144"/>
<Option name="track-buffer-seconds" value="5.000000"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-pre-fader" value="yes"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-post-fader" value="yes"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-control-outs" value="yes"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-main-outs" value="yes"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-pre-fader" value="1"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-post-fader" value="1"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-control-outs" value="1"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-main-outs" value="1"/>
<Option name="solo-latch" value="yes"/>
<Option name="mtc-port" value="ardour"/>
<Option name="mmc-port" value="ardour"/>
Index: tools/osx_packaging/Resources/ardour_system.rc
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--- tools/osx_packaging/Resources/ardour_system.rc (revision 5717)
+++ tools/osx_packaging/Resources/ardour_system.rc (working copy)
@@ -6,10 +6,10 @@
<Config>
<Option name="minimum-disk-io-bytes" value="262144"/>
<Option name="track-buffer-seconds" value="5.000000"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-pre-fader" value="yes"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-post-fader" value="yes"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-control-outs" value="yes"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-main-outs" value="yes"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-pre-fader" value="1"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-post-fader" value="1"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-control-outs" value="1"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-main-outs" value="1"/>
<Option name="solo-latch" value="yes"/>
<Option name="mtc-port" value="ardour"/>
<Option name="mmc-port" value="ardour"/>
Index: ardour.rc.in
===================================================================
--- ardour.rc.in (revision 5717)
+++ ardour.rc.in (working copy)
@@ -6,10 +6,10 @@
<Config>
<Option name="minimum-disk-io-bytes" value="262144"/>
<Option name="track-buffer-seconds" value="5.000000"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-pre-fader" value="yes"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-post-fader" value="yes"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-control-outs" value="yes"/>
- <Option name="mute-affects-main-outs" value="yes"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-pre-fader" value="1"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-post-fader" value="1"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-control-outs" value="1"/>
+ <Option name="mute-affects-main-outs" value="1"/>
<Option name="solo-latch" value="yes"/>
<Option name="mtc-port" value="%MIDITAG%"/>
<Option name="mmc-port" value="%MIDITAG%"/>
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So it was that simple =/ Anyway patch uploaded against current ongoing. |
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an alternate (and much more extensive) patch has been committed. this now treats "1" and "yes" (and several other affirmative english forms) as equivalent everywhere that we might test for this. it should fix the mute problem totally, and ensure that similar issues do not arise again. i'd appreciate confirmation that the fix works. |
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As of revision 5740 ~/.ardour2/ardour.rc still gets created with mute options set to "0" - mute not muting by default. |
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Confirmed as still a problem in latest 2.0. Fixed in A3. |
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patches were committed on Ubuntu and Debian. see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/581786 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=582938 |
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The patch in Debian/Ubuntu seems to be only a limited exerpt of the patch previously submitted by shivmeister (see above). AFAIR this patch was considered a workaround but not a real fix, so it didn't get applied. Unfortunately Pauls attempt of a deeper fix seems to not have worked out for everyone - including me. Just tried current 2.0-ongoing (rev. 7202) on Arch Linux - still the same behaviour. |
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please (a) define "fixed" - new session, old session, new tracks, old tracks? (b) did you remove your own ardour.rc and the system ardour.rc file? |
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to clarify my last remark: the correct fix for this will not correct existing tracks in existing sessions. but current versions of ardour do not, i claim, have this behaviour for new sessions or new tracks added to existing sessions. this is true as long as neither your ardour.rc file nor (in some circumstances) the system ardour.rc, have the wrong mute default settings. |
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@paul: New session with ~/.ardour2/ardour.rc removed before starting Ardour. (it then gets (re)created with the wrong defaults) |
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what about the system ardour.rc file? |
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ardour_system.rc has value="yes" for mute options in it. |
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for those listening in, the_CLA and i went over this on IRC, and there is indeed a bug in ardour. Specifically, stuff in the <Options> section of various RC files is parsed in such a way that "1" and "0" will work to define values correctly as true/false, but "yes" and "no" will both set the value to "false". a fix (and a new release of Ardour) will be forthcoming. the workaround is to use "1" or "0" in all RC files and NOT "yes" or "no". |
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Seems fixed in rev. 7205. Newly created ~/ardour2/ardour.rc now contains values as "yes" and "no" instead of "0" and "1". Mute now works by default in newly created projects/tracks. |
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caused by incorrect conversion of XML element values to booleans. fixed in 2.0-ongoing and 3.0. |
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Issue has been closed automatically, by Trigger Close Plugin. Feel free to re-open with additional information if you think the issue is not resolved. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2009-08-19 11:28 | timblech | New Issue | |
| 2009-08-19 11:28 | timblech | File Added: iod4.ardour | |
| 2009-08-20 17:33 | thorgal | Note Added: 0006575 | |
| 2009-08-20 18:39 | timblech | Note Added: 0006576 | |
| 2009-08-21 08:38 | thorgal | Note Added: 0006581 | |
| 2009-08-21 09:33 | timblech | Note Added: 0006582 | |
| 2009-09-04 12:13 | nettings | cost | => 0.00 |
| 2009-09-04 12:13 | nettings | Status | new => assigned |
| 2009-09-04 12:13 | nettings | Resolution | open => no change required |
| 2009-09-22 21:32 | schivmeister | Note Added: 0006663 | |
| 2009-10-02 14:03 | the_CLA | Note Added: 0006679 | |
| 2009-10-02 14:29 | schivmeister | File Added: ardour2-mute_fix.patch | |
| 2009-10-02 14:31 | schivmeister | Note Added: 0006680 | |
| 2009-10-02 20:57 | paul | Note Added: 0006683 | |
| 2009-10-06 14:51 | the_CLA | Note Added: 0006689 | |
| 2009-10-06 14:51 | the_CLA | Note Edited: 0006689 | |
| 2010-04-25 16:00 | cth103 | Relationship added | has duplicate 0003017 |
| 2010-04-26 22:57 | cth103 | Note Added: 0007609 | |
| 2010-04-26 22:58 | cth103 | Tag Attached: fixed in A3 | |
| 2010-06-01 14:05 | rlameiro | Note Added: 0008112 | |
| 2010-06-01 18:00 | the_CLA | Note Added: 0008114 | |
| 2010-06-01 18:25 | paul | Note Added: 0008115 | |
| 2010-06-01 18:27 | paul | Note Added: 0008116 | |
| 2010-06-01 18:32 | the_CLA | Note Added: 0008117 | |
| 2010-06-01 18:38 | the_CLA | Note Edited: 0008117 | |
| 2010-06-01 19:05 | paul | Note Added: 0008118 | |
| 2010-06-01 19:38 | the_CLA | Note Added: 0008119 | |
| 2010-06-02 00:30 | paul | Note Added: 0008122 | |
| 2010-06-02 12:49 | the_CLA | Note Added: 0008131 | |
| 2010-06-02 17:54 | paul | Note Added: 0008138 | |
| 2010-06-02 17:54 | paul | Status | assigned => resolved |
| 2010-06-02 17:54 | paul | Resolution | no change required => fixed |
| 2010-06-02 17:54 | paul | Assigned To | => paul |
| 2010-12-13 22:03 | cth103 | Relationship added | has duplicate 0003579 |
| 2020-04-19 20:14 | system | Note Added: 0021978 | |
| 2020-04-19 20:14 | system | Status | resolved => closed |
